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Post by Beavers on May 22, 2006 21:37:00 GMT -5
The trim looks great WoodsWalker! Just reminds of how much work I have ahead of me yet. The jig for the scuppers looks pretty slick...might have to copy it. I have not given much thought to the epoxy-vs-screws for the gunnels yet. Screws seem like they might be easier? Not sure how many screws it would take, but might add up to a pound or two that you could save if they were epoxied?
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dan
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Post by dan on May 23, 2006 11:08:33 GMT -5
Troy,
On the 2 previous canoes, I built them too deep, and I would like to remove an inch or so from the hull. With the gunwales glued on, I could probably save them but it would take some work. If I could just unscrew them, it would be an easy job.
More long term, broken gunwales are fairly common, and rotten gunwale tips and deck tips are also fairly common. Again, these pieces are easily replaced if screwed on, much harder if glued on.
After restoring a few old Wood Canvas, and seeing a bunch more in a "project" condition, being able to remove any piece for repair is important.
On the old ones, deck/rail tips rotted away is very common, either broken rails (often at the seat bolts) or seat bolts pulled through the rail is also common. Seat frames are almost always loose and falling apart.
The weight of the screws will be less then a pound, and even less if you use SS. Typically gunwales screws are #6 by 1" and are installed about every 6 inches. (every other rib on a W/C
Dan
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Post by Woods Walker on May 25, 2006 3:19:40 GMT -5
Well gunnels & decks are still not attached ....... I got a little preoccupied the last few days getting ready for my 1st BW trip this year. I am getting ready to leave right now, so I will see you all next Tuesday. ;D I got some paddling & fishing to do
Troy
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Post by bluegillman on May 25, 2006 19:28:37 GMT -5
Hi Troy, you sent me over here and nice site on canoe building! I noticed you said "cut the plywood's and ready to start", I wonder if you got the plans and start cutting the plywood's with the pencil? Then you add the strips and "nail" them to the plywood forms? Can you reuse the plywood as a template?
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Post by Woods Walker on May 30, 2006 20:11:24 GMT -5
Hi Troy, you sent me over here and nice site on canoe building! I noticed you said "cut the plywood's and ready to start", I wonder if you got the plans and start cutting the plywood's with the pencil? Then you add the strips and "nail" them to the plywood forms? Can you reuse the plywood as a template? Sorry for the slow reply, I was up in the Boundary Waters on a canoe trip.
When I got the plans, I traced them out onto poster board using carbon paper & cut them out 1st. Then I transfered them onto my plywood.
After the plywood forms are cut out and finish sanded to shape, you attach them to the strongback. The alignment of the form stations is critical.
When you are ready to apply your strips, just place masking tape over the plywood edges. That will keep any glue or epoxy from bonding to the plywood forms. The strips are stapled or nailed directly to the plywood forms. And yes you can reuse the forms to make another canoe & the strongback can be used with any other design you may want to build in the future.
I hope this helps answer your question.
Troy
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Post by Woods Walker on Jun 8, 2006 4:50:06 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D ;D
The end is near, I put the final coat of varnish on my cross thwarts & yoke last night. My seat is done & ready to install (as soon as the 6" stainless steel screws I ordered get delivered)
Tonight, I will install the thwarts & put the final coat of varnish on the outer hull. I will post some pictures soon. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Troy
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Post by Woods Walker on Jun 9, 2006 23:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by Beavers on Jun 10, 2006 0:47:52 GMT -5
Looks great Troy!
The seat and thwarts look very nice. 39 lbs....eh? Very impressive, that's less than the advertised weight.
Can't wait to hear how she paddles! ;D
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Post by Woods Walker on Jun 10, 2006 23:02:28 GMT -5
Took the canoe out for its first time this afternoon. It was really windy up here today, so didn't spend as much time out on the water as I would have liked, but the nice sandy beach at Wunita's cabin prevented me putting the 1st scratch in it.
Well It Floats... ;D
Paddled really easy, but empty in the strong wind made it difficult at times.
Now it is my little builders turn...
img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/WoodsWalker/tn_CanoesBaptisim048.jpg[/img] He had never paddled alone before & did pretty well in the conditions. My Daughter waiting her turn, That is Wunita's cabin in the background. It was a short outing but very enjoyable, my wife took all the pictures. She didn't want to take a turn, she may when the seas are calmer. I am sure there will be many...many more opportunities. Looking in the shop tonight & seeing my strongback.... it sure looks lonely being empty for the 1st time in many months. Might have to start another one. Troy [/color][/b]
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Post by Beavers on Jun 11, 2006 13:32:33 GMT -5
Congratulations Troy!
Looks great in the water. Glad to hear it paddles as good as it looks. ;D
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Post by Beavers on Jul 7, 2006 19:16:08 GMT -5
Troy, Did you get a chance to go swimming with your 38 yet? After spending a little time paddling mine it seems that the secondary stability is pretty good. If I get the chance this weekend I might have to put the swim trunks on and see how good the stability really is. ;D
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Post by Woods Walker on Jul 8, 2006 12:05:16 GMT -5
Troy, Did you get a chance to go swimming with your 38 yet? As a matter of fact I did......
A several weeks ago I put in on a quiet little lake in a nice rain & went fishing for a while, this lake normally sees a good share of boat traffic, but due to the constant rain, I had it all to myself. After paddling for several hours & enjoying the peacefulness of the rain. I headed back to the put in & emptied out my gear & moved out to about 5 foot of water.
I was able to lean the canoe over until it took water over the gunnel's & right it again. ;D I did this several times until I got about 6 inches of water in the bottom, at that point it lost all stability & I tipped until it sank to the bottom with me in it. After getting out it promptly floated back to the top completely swamped. After getting all the water out, I tried to get back into the canoe in chest deep water..... I could not do it over the gunnel with out swamping it again. Next time I play like that I will try to get in over the stern.
Another thing that I did was to stand up in it.... when I was not moving forward this was difficult, but when gliding forward, I had more stability & found it fairly easy if you didn't loose your balance. This is good to know when approaching small riff's or landings.
This was great fun & I learned just how much the canoe will take. I would like to redo some of these tests when I have the canoe fully loaded.
Get the trunks on & have some fun ;D
Troy
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Post by kinniguy on Oct 23, 2017 9:50:36 GMT -5
I know this is a very old post but I was wondering where you got your plans for 38 Spl. ?
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